Be Careful Not To Say That Someone from the Netherlands is from Holland

Wow, you learn something new everyday. Since both xPure and Piet are from the Netherlands (what sections of the Netherlands are you from?), in my mind I was thinking, cool, I had never met someone from Holland before. Boy was I wrong. I googled Holland and learned that it is only one section of the Netherlands.

In fact, according to the article I read, people from some parts fo the Netherlands (Limburg and Noord Brabant) will even get mad at you if you say they are from Holland because of the history of conflict between the areas as well as the Protestant(Holland)versus Catholic(Limburg and Noord Brabant) divide.

According to the article, "...anti-Holland sentiment remains in much of the same way as many Dixie Southerns disdain the Yankee north (United States)."
http://www.cominganarchy.com/archives/2004/11/28/the-netherlands-vs-holland/

The sad thing I learned was that Belgium and the Netherlands were historically one nation and were ripped apart by a war brought on by the then King of Spain.

Do some in Belgium and the Netherlands think the two nations should ever reunite? Do you think they ever will?

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  • xPureNLxxPureNLx Moderator The Royal RAM
    Wow, I'm actually honored you did some research to the Netherlands. This sure is great, a warm welcome, really =).

    Okay, I'm from one of those 2 parts you mentioned, Limburg. It's not that hard anymore, that we get mad if you say we're from Holland, I say it myself as many people only know the country "Holland" and mistake "The Netherlands" as a little country above the UK.

    As for Belgium and the Netherlands: they'll probably never get reunited, just because of the differences and the grudges they have against eachother. Belgium is made of 2 parts (actually 3, but the 3'd one can be forgotten actually): a Dutch and a French part. The "Dutch Belgians >> Vlamingen (from Vlaanderen) can't stand the Dutch and visa versa. Too bad...

    Hope this helped you a little Deluxe. If you have any question at all, go ahead and ask ^^.

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  • DeluxeNamesDeluxeNames Admin Administrator
    xPureNLx wrote: »
    As for Belgium and the Netherlands: they'll probably never get reunited...The "Dutch Belgians >> Vlamingen (from Vlaanderen) can't stand the Dutch and visa versa. Too bad...
    - xPureNLx

    Thanks xPure :)

    Why don't the Dutch Belgians and the Dutch like each other?

    Also, here in the U.S., when two people go to a restaurant together, one of them often pays for both (usually the guy pays for the girl everytime or they'll swicth the next time they go).

    If both peole split the bill and pay for their own meal, we call that "Dutch Treat." Why do you think they call it that?
  • xPureNLxxPureNLx Moderator The Royal RAM
    Well, it's not really "disliking eachother", it's more like: the media (like the news and papers) really love the post bad news about the other (example: the prime minister of the Netherlands looks really stupid, the Belgian newspapers keep writing about his looks and his stupidities).

    The "Dutch threat", easy: we Dutchies (=P) are known for our economical way of life. They say we always watch our own money, even if it is for our girl- or boyfriend. This used to be true though, it's something from the old days.

    edit: My posted question was already answered =P

    edit 2:

    Dutch people about Belgian people:
    We always say they're stupid, stupid like: "not-smart" "amateurs" "idiots".

    Belgian people about Dutch people:
    They are always talking about our economical way of life, like we never spend money =P
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  • DeluxeNamesDeluxeNames Admin Administrator
    Ah, that makes sense, thanks. I will keep hoping that the Netherlands and Belgium will reunite so that it can be a larger, stronger country and be able to rival their German neighbors.

    EDIT: What I mean is that they would be a stronger economic rival to the Germans.
  • NuvoNuvo Forum Leader VPS - Virtual Prince of the Server
    Nobody is at war with the Germans anymore DX, so nobody has to rival them.
    Even if another Hitler (actually Austrian) did come along (Arnold Shwartsinwotsit?), no doubt the U.S. and UK governments would nuke them before they got anywhere near WWII standards.
    I'll give it to Hitler though, he knew how to commit suicide with the poison pills, head shooting and having himself burned after his death... (though part of his skull was still found and is held in the Red Square Museum in Russia)

    I work with someone who claims to have lived in Holland for a few years, but if this is true or not, I do not know (they talk so much garbage where I work that it's hard to tell what's true and what isn't anymore... I'm also losing my will to live as I'm one of 2 people there that actually speaks English to an understandable level as the others are Indian and Czech and either have no knowledge of our language, or are very poor speakers... Handy when you're moving chemicals which can blind you and carry safety warnings :[).
    One of the engineers where I work used to go to Amsterdam something like twice a year for, erm, obvious reasons.
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  • ZZ Formerly ''Piet'' NAT Warrior
    wow what an interest, xpure do we go google to?
  • xPureNLxxPureNLx Moderator The Royal RAM
    I use Google daily ^^..

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  • ZZ Formerly ''Piet'' NAT Warrior
    oke, i mean do we have to do the google for deluxnames to?

    he is doing quit a research there.lol
  • xPureNLxxPureNLx Moderator The Royal RAM
    Nah, it's more like he wants to know more about the members and their "backgrounds". As he said before: he didn't ever meet people from the Netherlands, so he looked some information up about our little country. I'm honored though ^^

    As he is from the US, what usefull information would we find about it which we don't know yet. The US is in our media daily (I read papers and I sometimes watch the news..) and both my mother and my sister visited the US recently.

    One question though: is anyone of you planning on visiting the Netherlands sometime?

    Straight answer related to the US: Yes, I'm planning to visit the US in a short period.

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  • ZZ Formerly ''Piet'' NAT Warrior
    i think that is very nice from him to do.

    and you are right the usa is covered well in the media.

    i like to visit the usa to.
  • DeluxeNamesDeluxeNames Admin Administrator
    xPureNLx wrote: »
    One question though: is anyone of you planning on visiting the Netherlands sometime?
    - xPureNLx
    My father and I are going to Wales this coming summer, as this is the land of our ancestors. We'll be dropping in on CBG, Python, Martyn (but they don't know it yet, shhh! :))

    We hope to for sure take a swing throgh England while we're there and visit Moddy and Nuvo, LOL. I wish I could visit the Netherlands and the rest of Europe but I think we will not have enough time on this trip, it will have to be in the future.

    xPure, where will you visit when you come? What cities and states will you go to? If you or any of you are in Boston, I'd love to show you around the city.
  • xPureNLxxPureNLx Moderator The Royal RAM
    Eh, too bad =(.

    I'm planning to visit a few states, some in the West and some in the East, but first I'll visit China, I like the Asian building style =P. Boston, it's in the North-East, right?

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  • DeluxeNamesDeluxeNames Admin Administrator
    xPureNLx wrote: »
    Eh, too bad =(.

    I'm planning to visit a few states, some in the West and some in the East, but first I'll visit China, I like the Asian building style =P. Boston, it's in the North-East, right?
    - xPureNLx

    China! That is very exciting! I've always wanted to go there. Will you see if you can learn some Chinese before you go?

    Yup, Boston is in the North East of the U.S. where it's getting colder by the day :D
  • xPureNLxxPureNLx Moderator The Royal RAM
    eh, I don't speak a single word Chinese, oh wait, I do: "Wei" is "Yes" =P.

    I'll probably visit New York for a few days, I might accidentily visit Boston too, I'll let you know =).

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